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You can't live the same life
like before you had Gustav.
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-Can you stop?
-Who is taking responsibility here?
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go home
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Sometimes it feels like
that we are about to get back together.
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But sometimes he is hard to read.
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I have to go.
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Take care of yourself.
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When do we get to meet him?
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You agree to this settlement
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is not with any independents, but with
New Democrats. We are a party.
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It is a decisive victory
for the New Democrats.
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They have put their name
on the political map.
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"The road to hell is paved
of good intentions." Old saying.
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We film when the girls show up.
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Now, run!
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Are the girls in the background?
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In a basement in Vesterbro
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forced three romanian girls
have sex with ten men a day.
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This is the dark side of prostitution
in Copenhagen.
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They are visited by Danish men
which does not violate the law.
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Prostitution is legal in Denmark
for both customers and practitioners.
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I'm calling you.
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Eric! Welcome to
Office of the New Democrats.
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My God!
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You said it was small.
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We only need 300 more signatures
to participate in the elections.
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- The top.
-Fantastic.
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Pernille Madsen,
a comment about the Romanian girls?
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-It's terrible that it...
-Miss Tinnitus.
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...can go on in a legal society.
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-What are you going to do?
- The government does not intend to act.
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But the Labor Party thinks
get a majority in the Norwegian Parliament
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for a prohibition against that violation
of women as prostitution is.
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- She just gets louder.
-Madsen is furious...
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But she's right.
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Yeah, but she's annoying.
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You are up to date, I see. That's good.
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Pernille Madsen will be here soon.
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-Hello.
- Hello, Pernille.
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-Hello. can i sit here
-Of course.
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We are working on a ban.
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It should be illegal
to buy sex in Denmark.
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-Only to buy, not to sell?
-Criminalizing the girls does not help.
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-The customers must be punished.
-Like in Norway and Sweden.
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What do the others say?
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The Moderates and the Solidarity collection
is included. About the Freedom Party...
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Can you persuade Saltum?
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No, but I've looked around a bit
with Benedikte Nedergaard.
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She represents
the modern phalanx in the party.
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I think she wants to negotiate.
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We have a historic opportunity
to get a majority outside the government.
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It would be a big defeat for Hesselboe.
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We have tactical reasons, if nothing else.
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We show that we are a true center party,
which takes a position on each individual issue.
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In terms of media, it's good.
Prostitution always makes big headlines.
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-Absolutely.
- Time to vote.
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Amendments to the Act on Border Zones.
How exciting!
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-Where is Jon these days?
-In the United States. Why do you wonder?
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Prostitution and sexual politics
is his area.
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I will take it up with him,
but we must act quickly.
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Yeah, but Jon, we don't have one
established policy on prostitution.
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Personally, I'm probably in favor of a ban.
But I have not studied the matter in detail.
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Tactically, it makes sense.
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Yes, that sounds good.
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I would love to read a new study.
Can you email it?
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I have to go. We do. Bye then.
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New shoes?
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He just got new ones!
Was it the wrong brand?
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Huh, Magnus? Hello.
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what are you doing
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Muesli.
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No. We eat in half an hour.
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Jesus!
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Jesus? Where does it come from?
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Safe from me. Sorry.
He is quite difficult right now.
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And you reward him with new shoes.
To avoid quarrels.
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I had done the same thing.
We really are lousy parents.
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-Will you do me a favor?
-Certainly.
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Can you take the children for the next few days?
Can we switch days?
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Certainly.
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Is it work? They are big enough
to fend for themselves a little.
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Well, but... It's not work.
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What is it then?
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A gentleman's visit.
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Okay, Jeremy?
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Can't they meet him?
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No, it's not like that...
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It is a bit...
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- Thank you.
-See you...
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- See you.
-Certainly.
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-Hello then.
-Hello then.
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Torben. Hello. are you ok
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Yes. But it's a bit difficult at home right now.
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- Stop, Torben.
-Why?
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-People can see.
-Oh no.
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- Well, they can.
-No.
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Torben, stop.
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Stop. You are going to the Krea room.
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- I can't stand it.
-Now. Bye then.
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Pia...
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I see you are working hard on your relationship
with me as your boss.
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And your department has received fantastic
viewing figures. I am very satisfied.
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I have thought of one thing.
It's quite exciting.
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Imagine if we would
gender segment the news a bit?
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Women usually watch at six o'clock
and men half past nine.
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After all, women like domestics the most
and intimate stuff, right?
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Add more of it at six o'clock
and save heavy foreign material for the men.
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-Even the biggest foreign news?
- They can be taken in at six o'clock.
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But we save the analysis
to the nine-thirty broadcast.
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Don't just agree with me!
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I want to hear what you think.
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I don't think that's a good idea.
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Then we'll leave it at that for now.
It's okay.
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What do you want to discuss?
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I heard
that management intends to shut down...
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...the 12 news.
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The viewing figures are abysmal.
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Is it just about numbers?
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We want to be a serious news channel.
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Okay, then we won't touch the 12 news.
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-Not?
-No.
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Here is the morning news.
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We have applied for the prime minister
for a comment on the prostitution debate
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but he has declined to comment.
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-Hello.
-Hey, mom.
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Hello, darling.
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Hello, darling.
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Hello.
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Do you want to put him to bed tonight?
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Shall we read a bedtime story tonight?
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Yes, honey.
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The Case of the Romanians
shows how important it is to act quickly.
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Today the Labor Party has,
The Green Party, Solidarity Collection,
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Moderates, New Democrats
and the Freedom Party united...
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She anticipates the events.
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-Good morning.
-Good morning.
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Pernille has announced
that we agree with her bill.
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It went really fast.
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Tell us what's on your mind.
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The thing that... The thing that happened
those girls in Vesterbro
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covered by the Criminal Code.
It was rape and kidnapping.
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We use the case as leverage
to get the law through.
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Trafficking in women can never be acceptable.
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It's already illegal.
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My wife is...
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- Black.
- She is a lawyer.
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She has worked a lot
with legal aid in prostitution.
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-She knows things that are surprising.
-For example?
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Trafficking is not that common
as one might believe from the media.
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-Street prostitution is quite small.
-What's your point?
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You are criminalizing something
which is already an offence.
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A little facts wouldn't hurt.
I have some here from my black wife.
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We look at everything
when we work on the bill.
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It's just a preparatory meeting.
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Pernille Madsen seems determined.
When you start discussing…
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You seem to be like that
emotionally involved all.
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I'm mostly in it for tactical reasons.
We can squeeze Hesselboe.
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This can go through quickly.
A team based on tactics, emotions...
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- It can quickly become...
-A sea creature.
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Don't worry.
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They put me in this apartment,
and then...
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The customers come and...
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...they bind me and...
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And then they fuck me.
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And then...
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That's what we're dealing with.
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It is very upsetting. Really.
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The film showed trafficking in women. What do we know
about Danish women who work in brothels?
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They are also victims, like foreign girls.
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Prostitution cannot be distinguished
and trafficking.
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We must criminalize the sex buyers.
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-Any comments on the bill?
- Just a small detail.
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We must punish Eastern European
and African traffickers.
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So only aliens are evil?
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No, but we want to reach everyone.
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Many of the girls are addicts,
so injection room in Vesterbro would be good.
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Today we will only agree on demands for a ban,
and sign the preliminary draft.
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We can work out all the details later.
I'll sign first.
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Benedict?
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Thanks.
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Don't be in such a hurry!
We must get to grips with the issue.
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-What are you thinking about?
-Some things here require more reflection.
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We equate prostitution with
trafficking in women, but it is not the same thing.
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Do we agree that prostitution means
that women are seen as a commodity?
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It's not that simple.
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This discussion shows
that we have different political agendas.
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Are we in agreement
a ban purely in principle?
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I need to know more
before I can sign.
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We have collected them all
from far right to left here.
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I regret.
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We become the ones who refuse
to help the poor girls.
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Opposition to accelerated legislation
is an important issue for us.
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We cannot compromise
to win a tactical victory.
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We need to know more.
We're getting started.
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The case of the Romanian girls
has caused a stir.
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Some parties want to criminalize
purchase of sexual services.
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The law seemed to pass in record speed.
But, Pernille Madsen, what went wrong?
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Birgitte Nyborg withdrew.
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Didn't she just ask for more time?
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It is very unfortunate
that we throw away the opportunity
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acting quickly to help girls
that needs to be protected.
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I hope
that she takes her reason prisoner.
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-Good night.
-Good night.
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I have laid out a towel for you.
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I'm sorry if I was…
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...a bit harsh before.
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Having children is tough.
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Everyone else can do it.
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We broke up before he turned one.
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I was 25 when I had Asger,
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and I was also totally confused.
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I was unfaithful…
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...when Asger was six months old.
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Huh?
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With who?
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Johan Mikkelsen.
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The neighbor?
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Oh…
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Does dad know?
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No.
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Nothing knows about it.
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Okay.
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-Okay...
- Life is difficult for all of us.
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No one prepares us for
what it's like to have a baby and become a mother.
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You did well.
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-Good night.
-Good night.
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{\an8}We want time to think.
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{\an8}No, we have not chosen a side.
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{\an8}We want to think before we legislate.
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A unique opinion is good.
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Forty people have asked for comments.
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Daily newspapers and women's houses,
who are really not happy.
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But Laugesen is happy.
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Nyborg had a historic opportunity
to protect these girls.
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But the old desire for power
has woken up with our former prime minister.
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Has Hesselboe bought her to
avoid a settlement without the government?
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Shut up!
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Who will pay for her opportunism?
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The poor girls we saw yesterday,
who sell their bodies…
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Thirty people have left the party.
They don't understand why we didn't sign.
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- I tried to persuade her.
- She wants more time!
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It is unfortunate that a female,
former prime minister hesitates.
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All prostitutes
don't feel taken advantage of.
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They are so traumatized
that they think they chose themselves.
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It's not that simple.
At least not where I come from.
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-And where is it?
- South of Albertslund.
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Quite ordinary lower middle class.
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That might be an option
instead of cashier.
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A girl from school got a job
as a hostess at a discotheque.
250
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She was the prettiest in the class.
She was very popular.
251
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She slipped into prostitution,
but became no less popular for it.
252
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- But it is a dangerous road.
-For some. She liked it.
253
00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,280
-Has anyone called and not shouted at us?
-Yes.
254
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Helene from SD.
255
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-"Sex workers in Denmark".
- It can't hurt to talk to her.
256
00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:24,800
-So SD represents prostitutes?
-We prefer "sex workers".
257
00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:32,800
-You give advice on legal and tax matters?
-And general professional advice.
258
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We also try to fight the prejudices.
So it's great to come here.
259
00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:46,120
Most of your members
so work in clinics?
260
00:17:46,360 --> 00:17:52,160
Yes, those are the ones we have reached out to.
But 80% of Denmark's sex workers do.
261
00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,680
It's not just young girls,
there are quite a few mature ladies too.
262
00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,800
-Do you want some?
-Thanks.
263
00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,880
What do you think about a ban?
264
00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:08,480
It turns us into victims.
It's condescending.
265
00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:14,200
I have to admit that I have a hard time
with "the lucky whore".
266
00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,920
It is strange
to link "happiness" to a profession.
267
00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,240
We're not talking about the lucky nurse
or the lucky policeman.
268
00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,960
You have 200 members of
3,200 prostitutes in Denmark.
269
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It is only a fraction.
270
00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,200
There would be more of us if it wasn't
so stigmatizing to come forward.
271
00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:39,760
Shares all women who work
secretly your opinion on a ban?
272
00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:44,280
It is a mutual agreement
between buyer and seller.
273
00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,240
No drugs are sold,
there is no violence.
274
00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,720
-Where is the crime?
-The girls standing on Skelbækgade…
275
00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:57,240
Yes, they must get help if they have problems.
But a ban won't help them.
276
00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,240
A ban is rather...
277
00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,640
...an expression of
some people's moral opinion.
278
00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,720
You think it's fancy?
279
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I have great respect
for helping the women.
280
00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,920
I am a sex worker too.
281
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:19,320
Wow!
282
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:21,160
Thanks!
283
00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,280
She is a prostitute herself.
284
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,480
-Katrine has just met a...
-Sex workers.
285
00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:37,000
She told me that.
She seemed perfectly content, but…
286
00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:43,200
-What did she think of the bill?
- She says it makes them victims.
287
00:19:44,120 --> 00:19:49,280
She said we tax them
but does not recognize their profession.
288
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,280
But one is not enough.
289
00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:55,920
She is happy with her situation,
but she is one of several thousand.
290
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,680
And the tax argument is good,
but it is very cold.
291
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,160
It's not too late
to go back to Madsen.
292
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,760
Erik, what did you want to say?
293
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:12,120
A new survey on the ban in Sweden
shows that it is ineffective.
294
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,600
Prostitution has not decreased,
and more people walk the streets.
295
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,960
And sharp increase
of assault and rape.
296
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:26,080
The street girls have to jump into the car
and cannot judge the customer in advance.
297
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:31,040
-So a ban endangers the girls?
-Yes, it opens the door for pimps.
298
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:39,840
It would be tactical to support the ban,
but do we want the state to control people's sex lives?
299
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:44,120
I actually know
some cases where it would be good.
300
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:49,640
We are ready for TV1. We have our arguments
to say no to a ban.
301
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:54,800
-Erik, do you?
- I am an old heterosexual man.
302
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,080
I am married to a young, beautiful African.
That's not the right signal!
303
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:00,760
I do it.
304
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,480
Educated women see prostitution
such as violence against women
305
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:10,440
and an opportunity to wage their gender war.
They have great influence in the parties.
306
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,280
So Nyborg is only tactical.
307
00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:17,360
It doesn't look very tactical.
I think she's reconsidered.
308
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,360
We know you're in favor of legal prostitution.
309
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,840
Men fuck around anyway.
Better they go to a professional.
310
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:30,080
You can't be serious. You can't
equate prostitution and infidelity.
311
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,880
So it's better to screw up
than having an affair?
312
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,400
Maybe not in your case.
313
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,680
Did you want to say something, Torben?
314
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,560
Does Alex have a few more
Dramatic cuts underway?
315
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,880
No, no cuts in the program range,
and the 12 news will remain.
316
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:50,760
Neat.
317
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,840
-Yes?
- Good job.
318
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:59,240
At first, Birgitte Nyborg wanted to ban it
prostitution, then she asked for time to think.
319
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,920
What is your position now?
320
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:07,280
The New Democrats cannot support
a ban like in Norway and Sweden.
321
00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:11,360
Street prostitutes, the most vulnerable,
has gotten worse.
322
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:24,320
No smoking.
323
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:28,800
Thanks.
324
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,840
-You're not used to it.
- No, I'm not a heavy smoker.
325
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,080
-Thanks for last time.
-The same.
326
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:42,640
How about a return match?
327
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,360
-No. I won.
-Yes, you did.
328
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,080
Best not to then.
329
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,000
- Yes, best not to.
-Certainly.
330
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,040
Call if you change your mind.
331
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,080
I will.
332
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,200
The prostitutes can safely
go to the police.
333
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:04,520
The study shows that the Swedish ban
has not had the desired effect.
334
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,280
Shouldn't we listen to the facts?
335
00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:12,640
I arranged a hearing on the subject
and all the facts support a ban.
336
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,760
The prostitutes
couldn't come to your hearing.
337
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,000
The leading experts
in the area in Denmark was there.
338
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,520
Don't you think the sex workers
know little about your own business?
339
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,920
Prostitution is not a business activity.
340
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:33,360
Do we agree that they prostituted
pay taxes, which the state is happy to receive?
341
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,560
They charge for a service,
i.e. business activities.
342
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,080
Prostitution continues to be a gray area
in the eyes of the law,
343
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,680
because you oppose a ban.
344
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,040
- Do you want it?
-Absolutely not.
345
00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:50,520
I want us to know much more
before we legislate.
346
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,440
That's how it used to be in Denmark.
Let's have another hearing.
347
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,640
I have to stop.
348
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,520
Have fun at the cricket.
349
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,360
I love you too.
350
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,920
-Hello.
-Hello.
351
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,880
- It was the eldest son, Alfie. He greets.
-Hello.
352
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,640
What have you told your children about me?
I'm curious.
353
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,240
Not so much.
354
00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:31,680
-You were good at the news.
-Was I?
355
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,280
Which of my arguments was the best?
356
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,720
Impossible to say
because I didn't understand them.
357
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,120
We say no to the ban.
358
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,120
Good. It surprised me
that Denmark would introduce it.
359
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,040
Scandinavia is known for
his free sexual outlook,
360
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:52,480
so it was strange that you should
ban something the world loves you for.
361
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,320
-Do you want a drink?
- Yes, please.
362
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,560
It's pretty tricky politically.
363
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,920
They are so afraid of being stigmatized
that we do not get in touch with them.
364
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,280
The same with customers. They are ashamed.
365
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:11,880
It sounds like England.
366
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,920
- It's probably the same everywhere.
- No, I don't think so.
367
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,080
There are cultures
where it is more accepted.
368
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,040
And countries where it is not considered
so morally wrong.
369
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,320
You seem to have a liberal attitude.
370
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,240
I see nothing wrong with that,
as long as both agree.
371
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:37,720
And have you?
372
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,480
Have you been to...
373
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,800
...a prostitute?
374
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,120
Well...
375
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,720
What an interesting topic
for an evening conversation!
376
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,760
Yes, I have.
377
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,560
I travel a lot.
378
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:03,880
Worldwide. Often alone.
379
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,680
Have you done it often?
380
00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:08,960
No.
381
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:10,920
A couple of times.
382
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:18,200
-Have you never had sex for the sake of sex?
- Yes, but it's not the same thing.
383
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,080
-Why not?
-Because of the money.
384
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,720
Sorry, but I think it's…
385
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,280
...degrading to buy someone.
386
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,920
- You don't want a ban.
-Just.
387
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:35,800
But...
388
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,720
You buy a service.
You don't buy the person.
389
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:57,360
Now you have learned something about me
which you are not too happy about.
390
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,280
It doesn't have to be a problem.
It can be…
391
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:04,400
...exciting.
392
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,240
It must be clear
to the 12 news tomorrow.
393
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,160
Probably the cleaners.
394
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,800
Thanks for the help.
395
00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:23,440
The debate on prostitution
has really taken off.
396
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,280
You have no idea how exciting the research is.
397
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:33,280
Why do people have sex, when do people have sex,
how often, how, what do people think about sex…
398
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:36,680
-What does sex do?
- Did we break up because we didn't have sex?
399
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,120
I've been thinking about…
It took me a long time to start again.
400
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,120
- I should have prioritized it.
-I didn't turn you on anymore.
401
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,080
Sexuality died for me when we had children.
402
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,320
I couldn't…
403
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:07,360
It was your job to want me
with my hormones and the milk and…
404
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,080
I couldn't wrap my head around it,
that you were...
405
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,920
...both mother and mistress.
406
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,760
Security scares me.
407
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,280
I'm broken inside.
408
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,240
-I shouldn't have persuaded you.
-Stop.
409
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,560
Don't say that. Because Gustav is...
410
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,720
He is the best thing that happened to me.
411
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,640
I wouldn't want to have children
with someone else.
412
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:05,600
Thanks.
413
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,760
You should probably go.
414
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,080
You are right
that you instinctively want to ban it.
415
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:40,920
Thanks.
416
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,040
Sometimes I wonder
if I'm just a little neat?
417
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:54,000
At an EU ministerial meeting once
I spoke to a female colleague...
418
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,720
...about how hard it is to have
a love life as a high-ranking politician.
419
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,240
But... that you still have needs.
420
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,160
She told me that she hired
a male escort sometimes.
421
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,920
Cash on the table. No bad conscience.
422
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,080
Why is it okay for a female
top politician but not for a common man?
423
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,480
-Hey, mom.
-Hello.
424
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,600
-The cardigan and the trousers.
-Good.
425
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,800
I can't go home.
Mom's secret lover is there.
426
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,160
- It's very late! Aren't you in a hurry?
- In a hurry.
427
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:37,720
Say hello to Jeremy.
428
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:41,960
Birgitte?
429
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,400
Pernille Madsen will have a hearing.
Prostitutes are welcome.
430
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:50,920
Good.
431
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,920
TWO WEEKS LATER
432
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:56,920
Hello.
433
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,400
THE LABOR PARTY
434
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,880
Okay.
435
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:21,360
Welcome to today's hearing
about prostitution in Denmark.
436
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:27,520
Our expert panel will shed light on the subject
from every conceivable angle.
437
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:34,680
Our first speaker is a sociology professor
Jytte Hansen. Go ahead.
438
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,680
Thank you, Pernille.
439
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:43,280
Denmark was a pioneer
in the abolition of slavery in 1792.
440
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,200
Can we allow slavery?
in the sex industry today?
441
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,480
"Like ordering pizza."
That's how a 17-year-old boy describes it
442
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,400
his visit to a prostitute.
443
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,520
Can we accept that view of women?
444
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,480
Purchase of sexual services
has been banned in Sweden for a long time,
445
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:03,720
because we have realized that prostitution
is gender-based violence.
446
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:09,240
The state must intervene when the poor
citizens undermine their dignity.
447
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,920
People have always hated my profession.
They call it "whorhating".
448
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,560
We are a small group of people
who live outside society's usual morality.
449
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,440
We are tolerated more than allowed.
We are seen as victims.
450
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,200
But many of us
have chosen the profession voluntarily.
451
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,200
For us is a good day
not a day without customers.
452
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,240
A good day means many customers.
453
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,800
-Thank you for your post.
- Our customers are ordinary people.
454
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,320
You were a prostitute, Sandra.
What is your experience?
455
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,960
I was a prostitute for five years,
and it hurt me deeply.
456
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,920
I was subjected to incest as a child,
so my sexual boundaries were erased.
457
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,520
I'm sorry for you,
but the business may be good for others.
458
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,920
I didn't understand
that I hurt myself in the beginning.
459
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,840
It took many years of therapy.
460
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,320
Sandra's experience
similar to the so-called Stockholm syndrome.
461
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:12,400
The prostitute does not realize
that she hurts herself.
462
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,600
I am not a victim of the Stockholm syndrome
or a traumatic childhood.
463
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,320
I'm an adult. I have chosen my profession.
464
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,200
No woman chooses
to sell his body voluntarily.
465
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,440
You tell yourself that.
466
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,120
And the customers tell themselves that too.
467
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,520
It's exactly the same with people
who has sex with children, who claims
468
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,800
that the children participate voluntarily.
469
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,480
After 100 years of feminism
you equate women with children.
470
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,880
Women are just as capable
to sincere consent as men.
471
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:50,800
Studies show that 70 percent
of former prostitutes suffer from PTSD.
472
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,320
You are referring to a single study
of street girls
473
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,960
in South Africa, Turkey, USA and Zambia.
474
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:03,120
Many of the respondents were homeless,
drug addicts or war victims.
475
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,080
Are they representative
for prostitutes in Denmark?
476
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,640
Then we can look at the statistics
from the women's shelter in Copenhagen.
477
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:16,360
As you can see, they have prostitutes
major social and psychological problems.
478
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:19,640
Most are drug addicts
or alcoholics.
479
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,160
And as we see, the number of prostitutes has
480
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:27,320
who seek shelter at the women's shelter
increased avalanche.
481
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,520
The numbers do not match ours.
482
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,680
You seem to question all the studies.
But these are actually facts.
483
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,240
You may be living in your imagination
about the lucky whore.
484
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:43,240
But it's about you renting out
your vagina and mouth per hour.
485
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:48,400
Well-functioning women don't sell
his body ten times a day.
486
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:54,520
It's a classic, typical story
from the prostitute to society...
487
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,440
You did well...
488
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,120
You...
489
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,640
Hi Phillip.
490
00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:37,080
I tried to call
but your mobile must be switched off. But…
491
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,160
Give me the damn loan papers.
492
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:42,640
- Can I get them?
-Certainly.
493
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,880
-You seem a bit...
- Have you gone to a prostitute?
494
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,480
- A man has to deny that, right?
-Not today.
495
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,560
Of course not.
496
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:04,000
How did it go? The hearing?
497
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,000
Whores are victims of abuse.
498
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,280
Clients are psychopathic sex offenders.
499
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:13,680
So it is.
500
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,000
But I looked at the stats and…
501
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,840
600,000 sex purchases are made
in Denmark per year.
502
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,760
Although many are regular customers...
503
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,360
In round throw 100,000 men
goes to prostitutes in Denmark.
504
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,680
Not everyone can be
psychopathic sex offenders.
505
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,480
A large number of ordinary men
also goes to prostitutes.
506
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:36,720
Ordinary people.
507
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,720
Family fathers.
508
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,960
-Spouses, former spouses.
- You are the mother of my children.
509
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,280
You're the only woman I've had...
510
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,400
So it is.
511
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:16,880
Helen?
512
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:26,680
I said no to a customer.
513
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:29,320
I couldn't, after yesterday.
514
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,040
We didn't know it was going to be like that.
515
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:48,240
I have been a sex worker for 12 years,
but never felt humiliated.
516
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,480
At the hearing yesterday, it was...
to be raped.
517
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,160
How should legislation be made in your opinion?
518
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,360
What would you like?
519
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,480
Able to work without
the police turn the place upside down
520
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,560
and says it is for the Swedish Tax Agency.
521
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,920
Let's have receptionists
without being accused of pimping.
522
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,320
We pay taxes but have no rights.
523
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:23,600
And the numbers in their studies are wrong,
but nobody cares. We're just whores.
524
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:29,880
-Why are the numbers wrong?
-The ones from the women's center are fake.
525
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:33,320
Why would the staff lie?
526
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,400
They get paid per girl.
527
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,720
We are not the only ones
which charges per customer.
528
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,720
Give us the numbers,
otherwise we contact the ministry.
529
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:52,160
We are trying to get the real numbers.
Helene seems to be right.
530
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:54,760
The women's house folds
the numbers year by year.
531
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,200
So many of the women are double counted.
532
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,400
Of last year's 1,300 customers
every 400 duplicates.
533
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,120
-Did they get 40 percent more in funding?
-There are political reasons as well.
534
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,160
They want to inflate the problem.
Everyone is for a ban.
535
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,840
-Do we get the numbers?
-Nete is working on it.
536
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,280
People probably think
that there are bigger culprits.
537
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,480
They cheat with the numbers.
The end does not justify the means.
538
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,840
Now Nyborg is looking for the women's house.
539
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,880
The good people
who helps prostitutes?
540
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,360
Yes, exactly. Can we run it?
I mean, people love them…
541
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,200
If they cheat, they cheat.
542
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,840
Get Birgitte and Pernille here until 18.
Hanne, take it.
543
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,000
Should Hanne do it?
544
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,200
You can't do everything.
545
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:46,800
Torben...?
546
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,600
-Torben?
-Yes?
547
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,760
Hanne is new to the 18 news.
548
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,640
And I've run the story so far,
so i should finish it.
549
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,120
Not to pressure you, but…
550
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,720
You should give it to me,
to the nine-thirty news.
551
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,480
-Okay, sure.
-Good.
552
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,280
-Can you call Madsen and Nyborg?
- Did you get the story?
553
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:15,440
Yes. Thanks.
554
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,040
I can't believe it.
555
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,320
The number of street girls is not increasing
as dramatic as the numbers show.
556
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,680
Pernille, not true
your numbers with reality?
557
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:35,040
The women's center is understaffed
and it is a regrettable mistake.
558
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,320
To put it mildly.
Four hundred too many out of 1,300.
559
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,840
But is Pernille responsible
for the wrong numbers?
560
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:48,280
I have worked socially and met lots of people
of girls. I know what I'm talking about.
561
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,360
When you say girls, you mean street girls.
562
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:56,120
They make up only 20 percent
of all prostitutes in Denmark.
563
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,520
We must use the right terms and…
564
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,400
What we have to do is
to ensure that women are not sold.
565
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,320
Not on the street, in brothels...
566
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,840
We cannot base laws on morality.
567
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,600
All legislation is about morality.
568
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,520
The moral aspect for me
lies in if we want a society
569
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,520
where those who think
and living differently will take place.
570
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,880
I would not choose to be a sex worker
but I accept that some do.
571
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,720
These women need help.
572
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,960
And I'm glad you want to help them,
Pernille Madsen.
573
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,920
So why not listen to them
and help those who want to be helped?
574
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:35,880
So Birgitte Nyborg, what do you suggest?
575
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,600
Sex workers must have the same rights
like all other taxpayers.
576
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,040
Hi, Birgitte.
Great job. Fantastic.
577
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,720
Would you like a beer?
578
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:57,640
It was elegant, sharp
and you were not condescending. Pizza?
579
00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:01,640
Wait a minute, we've lost
another 20 members.
580
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,200
It is simply incredible!
581
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,480
The prohibition side is still in agreement.
But where does the government stand?
582
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,240
We will hear now.
583
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,040
Birgitte Nyborg wants
that we should listen to the prostitutes.
584
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:24,880
Unlike the previous government,
do we listen to those we legislate for.
585
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,080
Yes, we will listen.
586
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:31,560
-On the prostitutes too?
-They certainly prefer "sex workers".
587
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,000
-We shall use their term.
- Can he do more than just listen?
588
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:41,360
Can he be persuaded to
to give sex workers rights?
589
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,760
It would be the second time
we support the government.
590
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:47,680
But...
591
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:53,480
...have we not reached a point
where we have to disregard tactical reasons?
592
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,680
Hesselboe's last comment
if sex workers was an open invitation.
593
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,960
But how can we make sure
that they actually get any rights?
594
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:04,960
What if we were to suggest…
595
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,760
...a special police officer
tasked with combating trafficking?
596
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,120
Yes. They can't say no to that.
597
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,120
But who else is joining us?
We don't have a majority.
598
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,240
Maybe Kruse?
599
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:23,520
He is becoming increasingly liberal. He certainly wants to
not that the state meddles in people's sex lives.
600
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,360
We get to track Kruse and Hesselboe.
601
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,280
Roger.
602
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,280
-Bowl!
-We can still win this.
603
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,400
Hello?
604
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,520
Hello. What are you doing here?
605
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,960
I'm going to Helsinki again.
606
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,600
I had a stopover in Copenhagen
and took a chance.
607
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,120
Should I have called?
608
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,840
No, it's going well. But I have the children
tomorrow afternoon.
609
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,960
- Then I've left.
-Good.
610
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,560
Okay, I'm just going to get ready.
611
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,280
- How nice you are.
- Do you think?
612
00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:21,840
We can say that it is
on the wrong side of shabby chic.
613
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,880
What's with the hand?
614
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,680
I think a nerve has come…
615
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,000
...in a pinch.
616
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,360
I often get…
617
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,520
- Have you called a doctor?
- I don't have time to go to the doctor.
618
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:45,720
Do you know...
619
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,640
I have noticed that you…
620
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,600
...eats and sleeps far too little.
621
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:56,560
Tomorrow morning...
622
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,280
...we call your doctor.
623
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:02,400
Okay.
624
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,320
Kruse is on his way.
Who will lure him over to us?
625
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,280
Erik will probably have to take it.
626
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,200
Why then?
627
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,520
I had sex with him
at the national meeting a couple of years ago.
628
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,800
-Impressive.
-Hardly. He lost respect for me.
629
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,480
You lost your self-respect.
630
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,720
Why does everything have to be about sex?
631
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,320
He'll be here soon. How can we buy him?
632
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,880
You slept with him!
633
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:49,720
Kruse is vain. Tell him to
rubbing shoulders with the prime minister.
634
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:52,440
Jacob Kruse is here.
635
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,760
- Send him in.
- Good luck. Net?
636
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,520
Caroline? Hello, darling.
637
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:07,520
What are you doing here?
638
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,800
Because you weren't there.
639
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:15,920
The school graduation.
640
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,160
For goodness' sake!
641
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:18,080
Hello.
642
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:23,640
- I didn't know you had visitors.
- This is my wife Karoline. Alex.
643
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:28,080
Hello, Alex Hjort.
I've heard a lot about you.
644
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,760
I came to say we miss him.
645
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,320
He is usually here.
646
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,680
- He works hard. We appreciate him, so…
- How good.
647
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,080
Then I'll go home. See you later.
648
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,360
Bye, darling.
649
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,920
-Nice to meet you.
-The same.
650
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,720
So Torben…
651
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,640
You need to talk to the production
on streamlining the 12 news.
652
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:56,960
Is that Pia?
653
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,160
Yes, it's Pia.
654
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:02,760
If you want to keep the broadcast
it must be slimmed down.
655
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,960
-Can you give me a budget tomorrow?
-Yes, of course.
656
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,680
Fancy wife you have.
657
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,080
She is delicious.
658
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,240
Good work.
659
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,080
Are you going already?
660
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,000
Your children were coming, you said.
661
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,000
Want to stop by and say hi?
662
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,200
Yes.
663
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,920
-Can we take it out now?
-I think so.
664
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,320
- I think they are here. Okay?
-Okay.
665
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,360
Hey, kids.
666
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,680
You will get to meet someone. This is Jeremy.
667
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,080
Jeremy, this is Laura.
668
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:00,200
Hello.
669
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,200
-Hello. Nice to finally meet.
-Yes.
670
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:05,840
And Magnus.
671
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,360
-Hello, Magnus.
-Hello.
672
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,840
- My name is Jeremy.
-Hello.
673
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:10,400
-Have you made tea?
- Can you?
674
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,120
I have prepared something for you,
which I think you like.
675
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,600
It is a classic English dish.
"Bread and butter pudding."
676
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,080
- It's just bread.
-Say it looks good.
677
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,240
- It looks delicious.
- Does it?
678
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,640
It looks awful, huh?
679
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,120
-No.
- I put it back in the oven.
680
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,200
-Football!
-Yes, your mother has said
681
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,800
that you are good at football on Playstation.
682
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:35,720
Yes!
683
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,720
I'm with that. Want to play a match?
684
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,440
-Certainly.
-Okay then.
685
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,880
-Should he win?
-No, crush him.
686
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:51,800
He is primordial.
687
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,640
They want a budget.
688
00:49:57,240 --> 00:49:59,080
- I'll watch it tonight.
-Pia.
689
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,440
I'm sorry my wife showed up.
690
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,280
- I didn't know she was coming.
- It doesn't matter.
691
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:16,720
- I'm sorry you got extra work.
- I was supposed to draw up a budget.
692
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:17,920
We can't afford it.
693
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,960
I'm on your side. You know that, right?
694
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,840
I also want to pick up where we left off
to gender segment the 18 news.
695
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,480
- I thought it was already discussed.
- The idea isn't so bad, is it?
696
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,560
You have good staff, so you can
simply make it a little softer.
697
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,000
- Talk to Pia about it.
-Certainly.
698
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,600
You two get along well.
699
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,000
What do you mean?
700
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:47,440
You can be calm, Torben.
I won't say anything.
701
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:50,640
I keep quiet.
702
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:06,240
We will have a meeting with the government
about sex workers. We want you to come along.
703
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,720
They will listen to you.
704
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:14,040
You have managed to convince me.
There were no bigger skeptics.
705
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:20,960
Okay.
706
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:23,680
The top.
707
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,000
I believe you should have rights.
708
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,520
I just don't understand how you can.
709
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,880
I give people pleasure.
710
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,640
- But you're selling your body, dammit!
-No. I sell a service.
711
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,760
-To anyone.
-No.
712
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:49,680
To many.
713
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,040
Everyone deserves a little tenderness and closeness.
714
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,160
-Don't you feel taken advantage of?
-No. I chose it myself.
715
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,920
I am good at my job.
My customers are satisfied.
716
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,440
I feel strong.
717
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,120
Recommended.
718
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:09,720
Okay.
719
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,440
There must be days when you don't…
I mean..
720
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,400
Of course some days are
less fun than others.
721
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:19,840
Just like in your job.
722
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,240
Yes, that's true.
723
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:28,760
Thanks.
724
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,880
Maybe the day you were told was
to fight for our rights one of them.
725
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:41,920
- But it is the most intimate...
-Not for me.
726
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:47,200
- There is a difference between sex and love.
- I probably want both at the same time.
727
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,600
Me along. With my husband.
728
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,760
Have you never had a disposable bed?
Without obligations?
729
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:59,200
Yes.
730
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,360
Sometimes sex is just sex.
731
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,440
- It will be interesting today.
-Who are you sending, Lars?
732
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,880
My Minister of Justice. New right wing
legal policy spokesperson will also come.
733
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,960
We hope for a settlement.
734
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:22,440
We are open.
735
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:23,920
We are here.
736
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,160
Hi, Lars. This is…
737
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,800
We are here to tighten up
the bill on prostitution.
738
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:49,000
I would like to interject that I personally
have become much wiser
739
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,400
thanks to my insistence
to investigate the facts.
740
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,920
It is a subject that arouses
strong feelings in many people.
741
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,360
Especially when you realize
742
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,120
that reality does not look like
as has always been believed.
743
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:08,240
The rules are unclear and illogical.
Selling sex is allowed
744
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,120
but not to run a brothel,
which is not followed.
745
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:16,200
Receptionists and accountants working
because sex workers can be prosecuted for pimping,
746
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:21,880
if they cannot prove
that it is a secondary source of income.
747
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,560
The law contains
many similar ambiguities,
748
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,520
as you can see in our document.
749
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,320
We want to ensure
the rights of sex workers.
750
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:35,960
We envision a license to govern
who can run the business.
751
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:46,520
Your turn.
752
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:48,560
- Good luck.
-Thanks.
753
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,320
Danish sex clinics have good conditions
and fixed working hours.
754
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,680
The number of customers is 10-40 a month.
755
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,720
There is no research
which shows that sex workers
756
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,120
are more psychologically damaged
than the rest of the population.
757
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:11,800
And as strange as it may sound,
so many like their job.
758
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,600
Or they change jobs.
759
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,080
Thank you, Helen.
760
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,080
Thanks.
761
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,000
Last but not least,
then we want to increase the stakes
762
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,320
to fight crime
in connection with prostitution.
763
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:37,520
We want a special police group
which combats trafficking and exploitation.
764
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:42,280
Okay. Thank you, Birgitte.
It was very informative.
765
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:47,040
We discuss in the parliamentary groups
and will return as soon as possible.
766
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,240
-Thanks.
-Hello then.
767
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:10,000
That sounds interesting too
your anti-trafficking measures.
768
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:11,520
There it will be yes.
769
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,560
And the rights of sex workers?
It is an important part of our proposal.
770
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,440
Birgitte, damn it.
We cannot agree to everything.
771
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:21,920
You didn't think...
772
00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:28,600
You are talking about legislation
in favor of...
773
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:29,520
Goof off.
774
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,280
You said it, not me.
775
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:43,040
What did he say?
776
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:44,920
He said no.
777
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:58,240
Unfortunately for Nyborg's little party,
so the government was not involved.
778
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:02,920
Her fight for the rights of sex workers
ended up in much ado about nothing.
779
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,080
Prostitutes remain
in the same gray area as before.
780
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,360
And who are the losers?
We ask the girls in Vesterbro.
781
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:14,120
Yes?
782
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:18,760
It's Alex. I had a meeting nearby.
I thought I'd see if you were home.
783
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,120
-Come up.
-Thank you.
784
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:44,960
What kind of meeting was that?
785
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,680
It was just a nearby meeting.
786
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:54,440
Come in then.
787
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:55,800
Okay.
788
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,160
BORGEN is inspired
of real events.
789
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:50,040
The series refers to historical figures
and events in Danish politics before 1982.
790
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,000
Subtitles: Janica Lundholm